Aw, I guess I somehow missed/forgot that you guys didn't like Juno. I thought it was cute.
Also, the "Teens who stand up for comprehensive sex ed" link just takes you to CNN Video, not that specific video clip.
Cara
said:
hmm...the CNN video link works fine on my end...you just have to led the ad run first. and those girls rock!
Carlos
said:
What is your guys' obesession with not liking Juno?
Perhaps you would label the film a "masterpiece" had the character opted for an abortion and then danced in the remains while ripping pages from the Bible and cursing the likes of Pat Robertson.
It always amazes me how Em and Lo profess to be "pro choice" - and then when FICTIONAL depictions of personal choice involving childbirth are presented, they go completely out of their skulls.
Relax. As the films' creators have repeatedly stated, it's only a movie with no social or political message intended.
Em & Lo
said:
Oh no, that has absolutely nothing to do with why we aren't Juno-heads! (Though we can certainly see why you MIGHT draw that conclusion if we haven't made it perfectly clear.) No, seeing her pregnancy through to term, giving her baby to Jennifer Garner--all perfectly fine. In fact, when we saw it, we didn't read any hidden religiously-conservative or anti-choice agenda into it--never crossed our minds! Our one and only problem with the movie is its incessant, preciously clever, supposedly "off the cuff" banter. (Well, that and the hamburger phone.) The first ten minutes of dialogue in the corner store and on the phone to her friend were torture. But it was the following line that cemented our derision: "You should go to China, I heard that they give away babies like free iPods. You know, they just put them in one of those t-shirt gun and *pew*, shoot them at events." Great on paper, fantastic in a written piece, but spontaneously out of the mouth of a 16-year-old movie character? No fucking way. Even the last incredibly sweet ten minutes of the film--which we actually loved!--couldn't change our minds after that line. And that's why we hate Juno. Hope that clears things up.
But dude, we can't let you get away with the word "always" in your comment--when have we ever gone out of our skulls because somebody, fictional OR real, made a particular decision about an unintended pregnancy? That's why we're pro-choice--we believe each individual should do what's right for them, whether that be an abortion or taking the pregnancy to term. If everyone who ever got pregnant unintentionally decided NOT to have an abortion, that would be great--as long as they have the choice.
Colin
said:
Carlos, I really liked Juno. Trust me it's fun it's cute I will probably rent or maybe even own it. However, we've advanced too much over the last century to remain in ignorance and just say, "it's only a movie". They said that back when African Americans could only be on screen for a minute at a time
if you want a really good movie about the CHOICE to KEEP a baby go watch June Bug. Please! 2005, it's beautiful, really.
This movie acts innocent which only makes its faults that much more insidious. Watch closely and you'll see the only minorities in this film are put in incredibly subordinate positions to the plethora of white actors.
A complete absence of any recognition whatsoever of birth control in a movie for young people talking about pregnancy - seems to send the message, when you have sex, and you will, you'll get pregnant. You can keep it. You can maybe abort it.
I teach sex education to public school students and these young individuals already don't know nearly enough about preventing a pregnancy BEFORE it occurs!
I love the idea that a girl can still achieve academically while pregnant but this movie seems to be entirely void of any consequences which send yet another really unhealthy message to young women.
Carlos, don't worry I like the movie, but we've reached an age where we hold our film-makers responsible for the enormous influence they have on our society. I hope you continue to enjoy film but also learn to think about it critically.
Aw, I guess I somehow missed/forgot that you guys didn't like Juno. I thought it was cute.
Also, the "Teens who stand up for comprehensive sex ed" link just takes you to CNN Video, not that specific video clip.
hmm...the CNN video link works fine on my end...you just have to led the ad run first. and those girls rock!
What is your guys' obesession with not liking Juno?
Perhaps you would label the film a "masterpiece" had the character opted for an abortion and then danced in the remains while ripping pages from the Bible and cursing the likes of Pat Robertson.
It always amazes me how Em and Lo profess to be "pro choice" - and then when FICTIONAL depictions of personal choice involving childbirth are presented, they go completely out of their skulls.
Relax. As the films' creators have repeatedly stated, it's only a movie with no social or political message intended.
Oh no, that has absolutely nothing to do with why we aren't Juno-heads! (Though we can certainly see why you MIGHT draw that conclusion if we haven't made it perfectly clear.) No, seeing her pregnancy through to term, giving her baby to Jennifer Garner--all perfectly fine. In fact, when we saw it, we didn't read any hidden religiously-conservative or anti-choice agenda into it--never crossed our minds! Our one and only problem with the movie is its incessant, preciously clever, supposedly "off the cuff" banter. (Well, that and the hamburger phone.) The first ten minutes of dialogue in the corner store and on the phone to her friend were torture. But it was the following line that cemented our derision: "You should go to China, I heard that they give away babies like free iPods. You know, they just put them in one of those t-shirt gun and *pew*, shoot them at events." Great on paper, fantastic in a written piece, but spontaneously out of the mouth of a 16-year-old movie character? No fucking way. Even the last incredibly sweet ten minutes of the film--which we actually loved!--couldn't change our minds after that line. And that's why we hate Juno. Hope that clears things up.
But dude, we can't let you get away with the word "always" in your comment--when have we ever gone out of our skulls because somebody, fictional OR real, made a particular decision about an unintended pregnancy? That's why we're pro-choice--we believe each individual should do what's right for them, whether that be an abortion or taking the pregnancy to term. If everyone who ever got pregnant unintentionally decided NOT to have an abortion, that would be great--as long as they have the choice.
Carlos, I really liked Juno. Trust me it's fun it's cute I will probably rent or maybe even own it. However, we've advanced too much over the last century to remain in ignorance and just say, "it's only a movie". They said that back when African Americans could only be on screen for a minute at a time
if you want a really good movie about the CHOICE to KEEP a baby go watch June Bug. Please! 2005, it's beautiful, really.
This movie acts innocent which only makes its faults that much more insidious. Watch closely and you'll see the only minorities in this film are put in incredibly subordinate positions to the plethora of white actors.
A complete absence of any recognition whatsoever of birth control in a movie for young people talking about pregnancy - seems to send the message, when you have sex, and you will, you'll get pregnant. You can keep it. You can maybe abort it.
I teach sex education to public school students and these young individuals already don't know nearly enough about preventing a pregnancy BEFORE it occurs!
I love the idea that a girl can still achieve academically while pregnant but this movie seems to be entirely void of any consequences which send yet another really unhealthy message to young women.
Carlos, don't worry I like the movie, but we've reached an age where we hold our film-makers responsible for the enormous influence they have on our society. I hope you continue to enjoy film but also learn to think about it critically.