When asked about masturbation by her Times profiler, Fredell's response is a quick, "Oh, God, no!" This we don't get. We are sexual beings by nature, and as long as you're not addicted (i.e. you're getting your homework done, getting good grades, getting enough sunshine), then there should be no shame or problem in satisfying yourself occasionally as a tension reliever or just a nice way to spend a rainy afternoon. You can't get pregnant, or give yourself a new STD (though, fyi, you might be able to spread an existing one), and you can't break your own heart. Fredell's True Love Revolution tag line is "Why wait? Because you're worth it." If her abstinence club really is about love (and not God) as she claims, then loving yourself--both spiritually and physically--should be encouraged. Because you're worth it.

On the other hand, you've got Chen saying, "To say that I have to care about every person I have sex with is an unreasonable expectation. It feels good! It feels good!" We no likey this extreme either. If you're going to get naked and intimate with someone--and thus put yourself and perhaps your partner at risk for unplanned pregnancy, STDs, heartache, blue balls (or labes), etc.--then you better damn well care about the person you're doing it with, at least a little bit. You don't have to be in love, you don't have to be in a long-term monogamous marriage, but at the very least you should give a shit about that person's physical and emotional well-being, at least for the immediate future. It's what separates us from the animals and makes this world a better place: trying to make sure we don't hurt the people we're fucking (unless of course they're masochists and you've agreed upon a safe word). That, and reciprocal orgasms.

Maybe we're just getting old, but there's a big, wide, comfy middle ground between these two gals that's a great place to have sex on, whether with just yourself or someone else.